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Why are onion, garlic and mushrooms bad.
alain
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1:50:43 PM on 18-12-2003
I did ask this yoga teacher what he thinks about the ph paper test. Here below his response.

Hi alain

One thing to remember. When we say a food is acidic, it means that it produces an acidic condition in the body. Lemon is acidic, right, but in the body it produces an alkaline condition so we don′t consider it an acidic food. Garlic′s condition in the body may be different from when it is just measured outside the body. I am not an expert on that, but one thing which the vegans and others don′t consider is the effect of a food on the mind. Garlic will stimulate the lower cakras and people will have a tougher time to control their sexual thoughts and actions, this is the main reason to avoid tamasic foods like this.  We have never quarreled with people who say that garlic has medicinal effects or may be good for the body, but we can never accept a food that is harmful for the mind. It may be difficult to convince your friends about this one, but sooner or later people will begin to understand this dimension of food.
Sincerely,
Dada Vedaprajinananda
webmaster, Ananda Marga
purevege
ID#: 2138
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4:52:47 PM on 22-12-2003
I completely agree with what alain′s yoga teacher had to say about using garlic and onions.I,being a Hindu, do not use garlic or onions in any of the preparations on festival days and this is mainly because of the reason mentioned in that post.Hindu festivals are pretty elaborate if they are celebrated in an orthodox fashion.This requires utmost purity of thought,which will definitely be spoilt even by thinking about foodstuffs prepared using onion and garlic.

Everyone of us know how tempting  a foodstuff prepared using onion or garlic could be to the tongue and if one is aiming at mind control, I believe that we should try to avoid eating foodstuff containing onion and garlic and maybe mushrooms as well(I donot know abt mushrooms as I haven′t ever liked to eat them).
Eve Spencer
ID#: 2139
Vegetarian and Vegan Society of Queensland member
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6:00:35 PM on 22-12-2003
hello purevege, and welcome to this forum.  It is always very interesting indeed to read differing points of view. I went to a vegan restaurant in Sydney a couple of years ago, where the proprietors are Taoist. and they precluded the use of onion, garlic etc in their delicious meals.
Prady
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6:39:17 PM on 27-01-2004
I am a Hindu and have heard from my elders and teachers that onion and garlic are harmful for mind. One of my friends was pointing that there is no scientific theory to support such a view. Can anybody throw some light on the scientific point of view?

tim
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ID#: 2952
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7:27:22 AM on 28-01-2004
Studying Herbal Medicine under Dorothy Hall she was of the opinion that different races needed different foods.  And what was good for one people was not good for another.  So for example a Mediterranean style diet would be bad for a Chinese person etc.

So maybe the religions catered for the needs of that people in that particular region.  Maybe garlic and onions play havoc with the minds of Indian people but and great for Italians .

Just a thought.


tim

Dark Horse
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ID#: 2953
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10:55:46 AM on 28-01-2004
That certainly sounds feasible, Tim.  Most of the Indian people I know are very calm and serene, whereas most of the Italian people I know are very excitable -- maybe it IS the garlic or lack of!

And as for race differences, it is fairly well known that most Asian people are lactose intolerant and generally speaking, westerners tolerate lactose pretty well.

Hmmm..  Maybe if I were to cut back on my garlic, I wouldn′t get into so much trouble!
tim
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ID#: 2956
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11:42:54 AM on 28-01-2004
but maybe it is your nature.  

Dark by name..........


Dark Horse
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ID#: 2957
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12:14:51 PM on 28-01-2004
You could be right, Tim.  After all I AM a Scorpion too, so I don′t have much hope do I?
Eve Spencer
ID#: 2958
Vegetarian and Vegan Society of Queensland member
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2:30:36 PM on 28-01-2004
I don′t know about the different  foods for different regions. As to Indians being calm and serene - have you ever seen newsreels of hindus chopping up sikhs, sikhs burning hindus, both of them attacking moslems, and all of them denying independence to the kashmiris?

Hardly due to onion, garlic, and mushrooms!
Dark Horse
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ID#: 3033
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10:17:38 PM on 31-01-2004
Ah now Eve!  I DID say the Indians I knew!  Although a nice young couple, brother and sister, who lived down the road from me, WERE killed with a crossbow by another Indian fellow and taken further out and thrown down the side of the mountain - but then I did not KNOW the fellow who committed the murder.  Not nice! Especialy as it was only for a bit of money.
Eve Spencer
ID#: 3048
Vegetarian and Vegan Society of Queensland member
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5:24:01 PM on 01-02-2004
Tim said perhaps garlic and onions play havoc with the minds of Indian people but are great for Italians. Dark Horse then responded that most of the Indian people she knows are very calm and serene, whereas most of the Italian people she knows are very excitable - maybe it IS the garlic or lack of!

When I pointed to all the slaughter between hindu Indians, sikhs, muslim indians etc, you then say you were only referring to the Indians you know.

Well that′s the sort of reply some people get when they have been accused of something by a racist. The racist invariably says - oh it′s all the others, YOU are different. Wouldn′t mind a dollar for every time I′ve heard that. The point is, we can′t make generalisations based on race, religion, nationality, etc, right along to gender, age, etc. Since I′ve been on the receiving end of generalisations, it′s something that alerts me to judgments. Incidentally one of the calmest people I know is an Italian who married my daughter - and she is one of the most excitable people I know!
Eve Spencer
ID#: 3341
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3:23:05 PM on 18-02-2004
Hi Naira, this is the one for you to read through, on garlic etc.
sesameseed
ID#: 3719
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3:23:31 PM on 17-04-2004
Yup, the Hare Krishnas don′t use onions and garlic and neither do some other religious groups. I love both, but sadly can′t eat them anymore, due to digestion troubles, but I have to admit that I don′t really miss them in cooking. It′s possible to have delicious dishes without them. My H Krishna cookbook does use tomatoes and other ′new world′ veg.  Actually, a lot of people avoid onions and/or garlic because of discomfort from eating them, so I guess it′s good that not all restaurants use them as a matter of course.  I dunno about mushrooms being ′bad′. I think they have always been considered ′hard to digest′, but I′ve been eating them (small serves) without problems and my digestion is often terrible!
alain
ID#: 3768
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8:46:57 PM on 24-04-2004
Tim write.................... maybe the religions catered for the needs of that people in that particular region.  Maybe garlic and onions play havoc with the minds of Indian people but and great for Italians .


I have to disagree with you. Having met over a thousand people who practice tantric yoga meditation (like myself) i am able to say that none of these people can practice  their meditation after eating onion garlic or mushrooms not to mention meat, fish eggs or alcholic drinks. None.

Among these people there are asians, americans, africans,  europeans,  australians and every other nationality.

The race want make any difference at all. They are all affected by these acidic things.

On the other hand i had my brother in law who got rid of a cancer in the testicles by eating raw garlic for two month.
Hematite
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3:21:49 AM on 10-11-2004
This is an old post, I know, but I′d like to set the record straight. Garlic and onions do not injure the mind...they stimulate it.

In Ayurvedic practice, garlic and onion are part of the PUNGENT category and are considered very stimulating.

They are avoided by Jains, Hari Krishnas and Buddhist monks because they are considered too stimulating. Perhaps causing sexual urges and a general restlessness.

Onions and garlic are considered very important for health by Ayurvedic practicioners. They help with despression, grief, flu. They are used for gout and infection. Even the monks will eat them for health.

Whether you eat them or not should depend on your state of mind and health.
rambutan
ID#: 4827
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3:03:16 PM on 10-11-2004
yes I agree with you hematite. Garlic and onions come under the group of ′rajasic′ (ie. stimulating) foods. Mushrooms are in the ′tamasic′ (inert, dulling) category but definitely not garlic and onions.
alain
ID#: 4962
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11:10:17 PM on 21-11-2004
Hematite write

This is an old post, I know, but I′d like to set the record straight. Garlic and onions do not injure the mind...they stimulate it.


The mind can be stimulated in many different ways.

It can be stimulated in a natural way by yoga practices where the pituary gland is strengthen by extra oxigenated  flow of blood and energy, and by different practices. It may also be stimulated artificially by drugs (chemical masturbation) or by eating or drinking different items.

Now, to say that certain stimulations do not damage the mind is like to say that the day and the night are the same.

As far as the mind react with dulling effect after the intake of garlic and onions is a clear evidence that the mind does not like the intake of these items, therefore they are harmful to  it (according to the intake).

On the contrary after performing yoga exercises the mind is in a state of peace and rest but alerted at the same time.

A dull mind is a mind which is prevented from carrying out his duty therefore it is bound to suffer.


Hematite write

In Ayurvedic practice, garlic and onion are part of the PUNGENT category and are considered very stimulating. They are avoided by Jains, Hari Krishnas and Buddhist monks because they are considered too stimulating. Perhaps causing sexual urges and a general restlessness. Onions and garlic are considered very important for health by Ayurvedic practicioners. They help with despression, grief, flu. They are used for gout and infection. Even the monks will eat them for health. Whether you eat them or not should depend on your state of mind and health.


We already said that these items can serve as medicine but like all medicine should be taken as long as the diseases are there, after that they serve the opposite effect.
Duane
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8:33:00 AM on 22-11-2004
General Restlessness is an understatement. I can′t eat onion or garlic because I can not sleep on them, digesting them is a real nuisance so there is a good reason to avoid them.

I agree with Alain

Here′s a logical conclusion that may refute the mind theory...

Garlic dulls the mind.
Almost all Italians eat Garlic daily.
Almost all Italians are duller than other races.

Logically true but in reality this doesn′t hold true at all.
alain
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12:57:04 PM on 22-11-2004
Hi Duane, you made me think about Indian people as well.

In north India especially, they eat a lot of onions, more than in the south.

It is in the south around Bangalore that a new generation of computer expert have come out.

I wonder why?

In Italy happen the same thing but on the contrary.

It is in the south that people eat a lot of garlic and onions not much in the north, and is in the north that most of the business are located. I again wonder why?

I know this because i was born in Italy (north), and i know about India because i have been there many times.
jaycdp
ID#: 6191
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2:20:59 PM on 03-01-2005
HELLO
AS A BRAHMAKUMARI ME AND OUR PEOPLE STRICTLY AVOID GARLIC AND ONION...
OUR BRACH PRAJAPITHA BRAHMAKUMARIS ALSO AVIOD GARLIC AND ONION ...I BEILIEVE IT IS DUE TO AFRODIASIAC EFFECT
THANK YOU
JAY
vego108
ID#: 7110
Vegetarian and Vegan Society of Queensland member
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1:55:59 PM on 21-01-2005
i don′t eat onion or garlic in my diet by personal choice - i believe it is because i tend to lean towards asian styles of cooking rather than western, also i tend to associate both of them with meat cooking and flavouring... even now if i smell either garlic or onion cooking, I can′t tell if it is either of them or meat,
with the hindu take on the modes of ignorance, i have personally found those that eat heaps of garlic to be agressive and dark... but with onions, really, I just can′t stand how those who eat them smell!!!
mushrooms are grown in the dark, apart from never liking them, i choose to eat fresh foods grown under the goodness of the sun and moon
Dhruva dasa
ID#: 7386
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5:08:45 PM on 26-01-2005
Here is a nice answer to this question about onion. garlic etc from the website of Kurma dasa, the author of Cooking with Kurma

http://www.kurma.net/faq/q1.html
alain
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5:58:38 PM on 26-01-2005
Misty_Angel
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6:36:59 PM on 26-01-2005
I don′t know about the effect of these things on our minds, the only choices I make to benefit myself regarding food is will it make me fat! Although I am looking into nutrition to help my strenth and stamina as well as my immune system but right now I don′t put too much thought into the effects of food on the mind although I should considering I′ve been feeling a bit out of sorts lately, anyway I digress.

What I wanted to say is that garlic is an old remedy for helping to treat worms in dogs. Just food for thought ;-)

Onions tend to have a negative effect on my body (I think you know what I′m talking about) but so do apples when I eat them for my afternoon dinner with a serve of nuts. It′s funny how our bodies cope differently with certain foods depending on the time of day or what you eat it with.
Misty_Angel
ID#: 7539
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11:02:18 PM on 28-01-2005
Oh yeah and I use to always put powdered garlic on my dinner every night to help keep colds and flu′s away but I stopped doing it because I thought, ′it′s just powedered garlic it can′t have the same remedy power as raw crushed garlic′ but since then I′ve had a lot of colds and flus, it could just be a coinsidence but I might go back to using it just to see.
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