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what exactly does flavour mean???
rambutan
ID#: 47947
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8:56:58 PM on 16-08-2006
i am finding more and more food labels have the ingredient "flavour" listed. does anyone know what "flavour" is? does anyone know any sites that go contain up to date additive information on vague terms such as "flavour"?? thankyou. i am assuming at this stage that it is a disguise for msg.......hmmm...
consume & die
ID#: 47950
Vegetarian and Vegan Society of Queensland member
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9:22:12 PM on 16-08-2006
Hmm I guess it depends what product it's in...but I am not entirely sure either.  

There is this list on VNV's website...but nothing about flavour.  Still, thought you might be interested in some of the info. http://www.vnv.org.au/FoodAdditives.htm
angry onion
ID#: 47959
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3:18:46 AM on 17-08-2006
Need to look out for nature identical flavour, as it isn’t natural flavour, but some nature identical chemical fabrication……

I would be wary off any other flavour (if that’s what you are trying to avoid) that doesn’t specifically say “natural”. Because it isn’t, if it was they would say so…..

To sum it up:

Natural flavour = is just that (supposedly)

Nature identical flavour = is some chemical flavour

Flavour = likely to be a chemical flavour or a combination of both, otherwise labelled natural
Amanda Griggs
ID#: 47970
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9:56:35 AM on 17-08-2006
rambutan
ID#: 47980
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12:21:07 PM on 17-08-2006
thanks for your help guys. i did a bit more of a hunt around on line and found this article. ........


01/10/2004 - In a bid to help food makers correctly label their food products, Australia and New Zealand’s independent statutory authority this week underlines the legal requirements for flavours used in foods.

In 2000, Food Standards Australia New Zealand, formerly ANZFA, established an updated food code that applies to all foods produced or imported for sale in the two territories.

This week the bi-national body pinpointed the number of provisions that food manufacturers need to be aware of when using flavourings in foods.

“Flavours often contain a number of individual flavouring substances and may contain other food additives such as antioxidants and colourings. Preparations of food additives also contain carriers, solvents and diluents which may also require labelling,” they warn, prior to reminding the industry of the rules.

Standard 1.2.4 – Labelling of Ingredients

Clause 8 – Declaration of food additives, requires that food additives must be declared in accordance with ingredient labelling requirements.

Subclause 8 (6) requires that flavours must be declared in the statement of ingredients by either the word ‘flavouring' or ‘flavour'; or a more specific name or description of the flavouring.

This means that all food additives, including flavourings must be declared whenever there are ingredient labelling requirements. Flavourings can be declared simply by the generic terms, flavour or flavouring, as there are thousands of individual flavouring substances, many of which have complex chemical names that most consumers would not understand.

Manufacturers can however, still declare individual flavouring substances if they choose. For simpler or better-known substances such as maltol or vanillin, this information may be useful to some consumers.

Clause 6 – Declaration of compound ingredients, generally requires the listing of all the components of compound ingredients in descending order of ingoing weight. In the case where the amount of compound ingredient is less than 5 per cent of the food, most of the ingredients are exempted, but all the food additives in the compound ingredient still need to be included in the statement of ingredients if the food additive is performing a technological function in the final food.

Flavourings often contain more than one component, they may contain many individual flavouring substances, as well as colourings, antioxidants or preservatives. If an antioxidant or a colouring in a flavouring is still exhibiting a technological function in the final food it needs to be labelled.

Standard 1.2.3 – Mandatory Warning and Advisory Statements and Declarations

Clause 4 requires that the substances listed that may cause severe adverse reactions in sensitive individuals must be declared when present in food. This means food additives and components of food additives that are derived from milk, nuts, eggs, crustacean, sesame seeds and fish and are present in a flavouring need to be declared on labels.

Standard 1.3.1 – Food Additives.

Finally all components of a flavouring need to be approved within the Code. Clause 11 – Permitted flavouring substances, lists the references to flavouring substances that may be used to flavour food. The food additives used in flavour preparations need to be approved in item 0.1 – Preparations of food additives within Schedule 1 of Standard 1.3.1.
rambutan
ID#: 47982
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12:27:13 PM on 17-08-2006
my favourite bit is where they say
"Flavourings can be declared simply by the generic terms, flavour or flavouring, as there are thousands of individual flavouring substances, many of which have complex chemical names that most consumers would not understand."

oh the dumbing of a nation!

Steve
ID#: 48016
Vegetarian and Vegan Society of Queensland member
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9:11:53 PM on 17-08-2006
I suppose its best to err on the side of caution....

from the society's faq.....(see last line)

Which Additives Contain Animal Products?

If a manufacturer can stick some part of an animal in something, chances are they probably will. Learn to be a fastidious label reader and avoid products not properly labelled unless you know for sure that they are suitable for vegans. Buy products from companies who make their stance on animal products known. Look out for ethically vegan companies and support them when possible.

Some foods have "E" numbers listed in the ingredients, with no mention as to the source of these E numbers. Ones to definitely avoid include:

120 - cochineal
542 - edible bone phosphate
631 - sodium 5'-inosinate
901 - beeswax
904 - shellac
920 - L-cysteine hydrochloride

Un-numbered:
calcium mesoinositol hexaphosphate, lactose, sperm oil, spermaceti

Possibly animal derived:

101, 101a, 153, 203, 213, 227, 270, 282, 302, 322, 325, 326, 327, 333, 341a, 341b, 341c, 404, 422, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 436, 470, 471, 472a, 472b, 472c, 472d, 472e, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 481, 482, 483, 491, 492, 493, 494, 495, 570, 572, 627, 635

Un-numbered:

calcium hepatonate, calcium phytate, diacetin-glyceryl, glyceryl diacetate, glyceryl triacetate, glycine, leucine, monoacetate, monoacetin, oxystearin, triacetin and ANY unspecified flavourings.
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